Are you kidding me lol... Telerik has nothing BUT problems, and what really makes me LMFAO is when you post something on Telerik forums you get the "FAMOUS" old Microsoft answer "We were unable to reproduce the problem must be on your end..." lol Telerik what a Joke...

"I am glad it has gone from throwing trash to useful discussion"

I think you made a mistake... it should be : "I am sad it has gone from useful discussion to throwing trash"!

The post was dedicated to warn people about bad stuff that IG did, preventing people like me to purchase a product that is not mature enough, full of bugs and bad support. I know Cris will argue, I'm able to make a nice application very quick bla bla bla... but you are the ONLY ONE! LOL. At least with Telerik you do not have a learning curve of month, nor years! You don't have to buy tranning on their product because they are easy to use. Remi has really a good point in the discussion when he said that a suit of controls that nobody can use except some "Elite" is not useful for anybody. The main goal to buy a suit of controls is to inscrease productivity, if it don't, it don't do the job, that's it!

I know Cris that you try to help people, that great, my post is not to *** the job you do! I' sure your site will be really helpful for many developpers (I really wish it to you) and congratulation if you are the infragistic's king!

So I do not really know where I'm gooing with my post so I'll shut up :)

@Cedric, I am not going to argue with you over mature, bugs, bad support etc. only to say I don't see how I can be the ONLY ONE that can do this minus the javascript for the new message notification 90% of that site is drag and drop so I am a little confused here... I don't think of myself as Uber Elite nor do I think I am the IG King and in my humble opion their are members on here that are A LOT better than me...

As far as my site it is not a control site and yeah I do pimp infragsitics as that is what I prefer and well it is my site so hehehehe but that aside I would be more than happy to do the same kind of tutorials in other controls but I am not going to go buy a control set just to make a tutorial...

@remi Man I could go for some wine right now so if you wouldn't mind touching this glass of water for me...

@Chris

Don't worry, i'm sure no one out there think you are an Uber Elite or even the IG King 

@remi, I will say this you do make me laugh

I don't want to get in your fight of who did what to who and how terrible they are.  Technology changes, you better get used to it, and Infragistics has been around for a lot of those changes.  If you think the Infragistics controls are worse than Telerik then use Telerik.  But they are going to have changes and have to keep up with Microsoft and some of those changes will break your code and then who will you cry to?  If they have bugs that frustrate you is it going to be your mission to warn the rest of us about Telerik? 

If you are writing bug free programs that never breaks or dissapoints your users you are the master.  I have programs that have been running for 10 or more years and there are bugs in them.  Some we can live with, some I fix, some have not been discovered yet.  I am not so full of myself to think I am the only programmer who writes bug free software or that I won't have dissapointed users.  My users don't tell me how great one of the features of my system works they tell me it would be so much better if it just did this one thing .....   I think this is the nature of software development, we are looking for it to do just one more thing better than it did before.

I was amused for a while but now I am tired of your rant.

"I was amused for a while but now I am tired of your rant."

 no one's forcing you to read any of this! :)

@dr, amen to that