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Where is Reporting in 15.1?

Phillip Shoemaker posted over 9 years ago

Where is Reporting in 15.1 Platform Installer? Do i really have to keep 14.2 Reporting alongside 15.1 WPF? If so, when is 15.1 Reporting due out?

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Jason Beres [Infragistics] posted over 9 years ago in reply to Nico Raschle
Hi Guys,

In all honesty, our reporting product hasn't had an update in quite a while, last July we shipped an SR with about 20 bug fixes, but there hasn't been any new feature work for 4 releases (2 years), and we were going through the motions with releasing it while putting our efforts into a new, more modern reporting line.

I would urge you to check out ReportPlus as it stands today, and when we ship the desktop designer later this year and continue heavy investment in it over time, you will see more features, functionality and richness required for enterprise reporting. Even today, you have the ability to do a level of tabular reporting in ReportPlus - currently, you can do the most basic tabular views, in the future, you'll be able to template columns and customize the rendering. The biggest benefit is that you get reports on any device, in an interactive, touch-friendly, app. Along with that, you get HTML views, which you can basically embed anywhere you'd like.

We do understand that embedded tabular reports are still necessary, I would argue that when you start shipping reports that can be viewed on a smartphone, in a native app, your customers / users will be thrilled, especially at the management / executive level. Nobody wants to be tied down to a desktop app to get at data, everyone has a smartphone or tablet and the need to securely access data on devices is a #1 priority for enterprises today (read any article on top priorities for CxO's). Plus, with over 25 data connectors today in ReportPlus and more coming, the ease of which you can design and deploy reports far exceeds the effort needed in Visual Studio, which is far from ideal when trying to get to data sources like CRM, social feeds, Analysis Server and even basic data sources like Excel or Google.

With that, there is a still a 3 year support window for Infragistics Reporting, so it's not going away anytime soon, and your license is perpetual, so you can use it forever in your apps. It is not an easy to make these choices internally for us, but we are like every other company on the planet, we n# of resources to build great product, and need to ensure that we set customers up for future success. I'd rather be honest and open about our thinking and what's driving it vs. continuing to ship product that is not getting any love in terms of features, bug fixes, etc.

So where are we investing?

Indigo Studio is a major investment for us from a Tools perspective. We are continuing to break new ground as the best UX / Prototyping tool on the market, and we are continuing to invest in the ability for Indigo Studio to generate code assets from designs. Today, we are generating HTML / JavaScript, we will continue to make that story better, as well as other languages in the future giving you the best chance to rapidly design and build apps in a single tool.

Rich Client technology - Windows Forms & WPF combine for a massive customer base. Windows Universal is coming soon. We are continuing to add new feautures, enhancements and internally these teams are growing to add lots of goodness. To all the nay-sayers that rich client is dead, they are wrong, 100%. In fact, I would say we talk about Windows Forms & WPF more than Microsoft actually does!

HTML5 / JavaScript / ASP.NET MVC - We can wrap Ignite UI into Modern Web (which includes Responsive Web, Hybrid / Mobile), which is getting a lot of attention. We have the deepest product on the market today, with the richest feature set, and you will continue to see more and more in Modern Web in the future. If you haven't checked out the Page Designer - http://designer.igniteui.com/ - take a look, there is more coming as well as integrating more with MVC scaffolding and code-gen inside of Visual Studio.

Data Visualization - This is a big area for us and a competitive differentiator - we have the fastest DV UI toolset on the market, a massive feature set, and we are continuing to make it even better. Best of all, you get this on WPF, Windows Forms, HTML5, MVC, Android, iOS and Windows Phone and very soon Windows 10 Universal.

Mobile - Both Android & iOS are big, but so is Windows Phone, and with the release of our Xamarin.Forms product last December, we are leading in terms of depth for native mobile. Our 2+ year investing in iOS, our heavy investment in cross-platform data visualization, and our new cross-platform data grid makes this a great story for any C#, Xamarin, Java or objective C developer.

Reporting / Dashboards - I've talked a lot about this already, but needless to say, this is a huge investment area for us.

Mobile Secure Document Management - Our SharePlus solution for iOS & Android is the nearing a deployed customer base of 2 million users. If you haven't look at it yet, you probably should - https://es.infragistics.com/products/shareplus-enterprise

We also invest in technical resources to help you where you are at in your own time zones ... we have folks on the ground in Bangalore, Boise, Delhi, London, Tokyo, Sofia, New York / New Jersey, California, Montevideo ... so it's not just product. It's 24x5 technical support, solutions consultants, services and UX folks. Shipping product isn't just about a web based forum or chat for help, we recognize that sometimes you need to talk to human beings to get your job done.

If you have built a lot of reports, let me know what kind, send me screenshots, and we'll be able to figure out how this maps to our new reporting story. If you have reporting scenarios that we didn't meet in the past, let me know the scenarios and let's make sure we can hit them in the future.

I hope this gives you some insight, if you need any more info, feel free to email me at jasonb@infragistics.com I will be happy chat about anything,

Thanks,

Jason
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Offline Nico Raschle posted over 9 years ago in reply to Robert Stoffers

After this news our company is going to switch to another framework.
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Kristopher Kunkel posted over 9 years ago in reply to Robert Stoffers

While I agree that 'traditional tabular, developer-built reports', as mentioned in your blog post, are out-dated and users need to be pushed into the future of dashboards, there is still a huge demand for them by stuffy, crotchety users determined to be set in their ways for the next several decades. We have tried for a couple of years as a company to try and ween our users off them, but at least half of them simply refuse to budge.

We need a product that can handle both past and present and as such this is disappointing news.
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Offline Robert Stoffers posted over 9 years ago in reply to Nico Raschle

Hi Everyone,

Today we released a blog post addressing this change. You can find out more about it here.
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Offline Nico Raschle posted over 9 years ago in reply to Phillip Shoemaker

This is really great, just after I renewed another year! If i knew that beforehand I would have switched to another product/company.

Very disappointing!
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