Hi,
In 2 weeks we will be half way through Quarter one. Surely you have a firm date for VS2008 support by now please?
Im going to have to make some tough choices and shift to a new toolset that does support VS2008, which would be a shame. We all have to provide dates to our clients as professional software development shops, and I'm getting a really bad taste in my mouth about the lack of VS2008 support and the fact you are not even providing a date for it. I must admit I am disappointed at the seemingly lack of care or concern over this issue, and feel Infragistics really missed the ball on Visual Studio 2008, which at the end of the day is your cash cow product.
Can you at least give us a firm date please so we can do some planning please?
Thanks in advance,
If only it were that easy..
Here's the dilemma. We are trying to get our NetAdvantage 2008 Volume 1 release out the door which is where the VS2008 support will end up. Because the VS2008 support is tied to a new volume release, it means it has to wait until our QA team has verified that we can indeed RTM (which means testing all new features for the volume release, etc). That as you know, is not something that you can simply set a date on. We have to hit certain code coverage numbers and metrics before we can ship the product.
That all aside, as of today the ship date for NetAdvantage 2008 Vol 1 is set for Feb 11. Barring any critical showstopping regression issues, expect to have your new version by Valentines Day.
I thank you, and everyone else for your continued patience and honest feedback.
-Tony
Still on schedule for release today?
Release has been moved out a few days. I'm hearing Feb 14 or Feb 19th. My preference (my wife's actually) would be Feb 19th. , though I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the 14th.
Ok, the Feb 14th rumor is oficially squashed. All current talk is for Feb 19th. Again, this information is meant to keep you informed, but I can't guarantee any date, as our releases are metrics based, not date based.
Michael Josiah said:I personally think it would be quite helpful for IG to know which competitor has a feature set that we find appealing.
For purposes of this discussion, it is necessary to discuss the features, but not the companies.
As Howard has shown us, there are appropriate forums for the "Which is better?" discussion.
I think that how I would feel about my company's forum being used to compare my products with the competitions would depend on whether the comparisons are favorable or unfavorable.
Here's a link to a relevant conversation:
http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?dotnet.12.590548.11
Edward McCarroll said: Michael, Zach, [anyone] There is a grey area between comparing features and promoting competitors, and in my (never-humble) opinion, this thread has gone further than I think appropriate. I would suggest that the grey area has been deeply penetrated when someone states: "<ThisCompetitor> { has | is | does } <ThusAndSuch>." I would prefer statements in the form: "Competing companies { have | are | do } <ThusAndSuch>." Statements of the former type might be more appropriately put into emails or private messages to the IG staff members who have so conspicuously contributed to this thread.
Michael, Zach, [anyone]
There is a grey area between comparing features and promoting competitors, and in my (never-humble) opinion, this thread has gone further than I think appropriate. I would suggest that the grey area has been deeply penetrated when someone states:
"<ThisCompetitor> { has | is | does } <ThusAndSuch>."
I would prefer statements in the form:
"Competing companies { have | are | do } <ThusAndSuch>."
Statements of the former type might be more appropriately put into emails or private messages to the IG staff members who have so conspicuously contributed to this thread.
I disagree on this point. I think it depends on the context. We all know who the three big name competitors are, its no secret. I personally think it would be quite helpful for IG to know which competitor has a feature set that we find appealing. This allows them to investigate, research and see if its something they want to include in their own product line. I think the line has to be drawn when people try to PROMOTE other vendors which I unintentionally might have done. I dont think we should be shy when mentioning other competitors I just think we need to do it in an appropriate manner. That aside lets not get distracted from the side topic. IG what are your thoughts on my previous comments regarding customer expection etc.
It certainly wasn't my intention to promote Infragistics' competition. Apologies to those that felt slighted by my post.